Bug202407250835 profile vcard empty

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 09:37:47 +0200

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od wrote the following post Thu, 25 Jul 2024 09:38:06 +0200

Bug202407250835 profile vcard empty

The option 'export' for a profile, produces a vcard with no 'connection' content

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Thu, 25 Jul 2024 10:39:32 +0200

Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝

pepecyb@hub.hubzilla.hu

Profiles are like ‘business cards’ that we create for our channels. A profile has no connections, only the channel has connections. This is why the connections are not exported with the profile export. After all, not every ‘business card’ contains all the names of people you know.

In my opinion, it is therefore correct that no connections are exported. RFC6350 does not provide for connections either.

The real question that arises if you have created several profiles for a channel and you export one that is not visible to all contacts would be where this ‘list’ of visibility is exported. I guess this is rather part of the channel export file.

Question for the Hubzilla experts: Are profiles also exported in a channel export file? And also their visibility for other users?

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 11:17:10 +0200

Harald Eilertsen

harald@hub.volse.no

@Der Pepe (Hubzilla) Yes the profiles are exported as an array under the "profile" key in the exported json.

Which profile your contacts will see is encoded in their abook entry, in the abook_profile key. This corresponds to the profile_guid of the profile. Everything is exported in the json.

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 11:55:31 +0200

Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝

pepecyb@hub.hubzilla.hu

Then the profile export (single) is used to add a created profile to another channel via import, right?

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 12:30:34 +0200

Harald Eilertsen

harald@hub.volse.no

@Der Pepe (Hubzilla) Looks like it, but I'm not entirely sure how that's meant to work. I tried importing one of my profiles to a local test hub, but nothing happened.

Have to debug some more to figure this out. Putting it on the list of things to look at when I get the time.

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:29:58 +0200

Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝

pepecyb@hub.hubzilla.hu

Ok, I'll give that a try too.

Premiere... 😂 I'll create my first ‘second profile’ for this (I don't actually need it yet).

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 15:24:19 +0200

Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝

pepecyb@hub.hubzilla.hu

@Harald Eilertsen I can confirm the behaviour. It is possible to select the profile file during import, but there is no ‘button’ to confirm the selection. Clicking on ‘Submit’ in the profile editor cancels the file selection and does not change anything in the new profile.

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 17:07:54 +0200

Harald Eilertsen

harald@hub.volse.no

@Der Pepe (Hubzilla) That's the same behaviour I observed. Seems this feature is a bit of work-in-progress still. Not really sure I see much value in it tbh. I would think you most likely would want the full channel export in any case.

Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:36:12 +0200

od@zotum.net

> In my opinion, it is therefore correct that no connections are exported

Mis-interpretation again (communication needs to improve!)

The 'connection' is this context is the information of the channel that has the 'export', _not_ the list of connections that have been added to a channel/profile.

The expected behaviour is that a channel/profile vcard is available when it becomes a 'connection' somewhere and the person wants to import vcard data into a database such as an address book of connections (e.g. 'ldap'?)

The 'vcard' should store all of the information that the channel/profile has submitted. This information should then become the data as a vcard of that channel/profile when it becomes a 'connection' somewhere else.

The 'vcard' export does not even show the name of the channel/profile!:

"
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:4.0
PRODID:-//Sabre//Sabre VObject 4.3.1//EN
UID:sabre-vobject-...
ADR;TYPE=HOME:;;;;;;
FN:
N:;;;;
END:VCARD
"
It should show:

"
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:4.0
PRODID:-//Sabre//Sabre VObject 4.3.1//EN
UID:sabre-vobject-...
ADR;TYPE=HOME:;;;;;;
FN: your full name as entered in your hubzilla channel/profile
N:;;;;. your channel name/profile as entered in your channel/profile
your other meta data (e.g. location, country, hometown) that you entered in your channel/profile
END:VCARD
"

Behaviour about import, export, clone of channel/profiles is separate and seems to be another new bug

Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:39:06 +0200

od@zotum.net

@Harald Eilertsen

Export, import, clone of channels/profiles is a fundamental feature of hubzilla. It should be tested _with rigour_ before each version. To date, does not work. No documentation. No knowledge of the expected behaviour _to test against_

Fri, 26 Jul 2024 12:14:53 +0200

Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂ ⚝

pepecyb@hub.hubzilla.hu

@od

Mis-interpretation again (communication needs to improve!)

Accepted... I misinterpreted that.

It seems that you misunderstand profiles. A profile is the description for channels. You can also use identical profiles for different channels. The profile is linked to a channel, but the channel is not linked to the profile. This is why the channel is not in the VCARD, but the profile is in the channel export file.

Fri, 26 Jul 2024 14:59:16 +0200

od@zotum.net

@Der Pepe (Hubzilla)

A profile is the description for channels. You can also use identical profiles for different channels. The profile is linked to a channel, but the channel is not linked to the profile. This is why the channel is not in the VCARD, but the profile is in the channel export file.

This causes much confusion now. Recently observed (then added to the 'help' file) that profiles cannot be deleted individually, deletion can only occur at the channel where the profile(s) was/were created. This suggests that the profile is linked to the channel.