Install Hubzilla locally with XAMPP ?

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 11:13:27 +0100

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RockyIII wrote the following post Sat, 07 Jan 2023 11:13:21 +0100

Install Hubzilla locally with XAMPP ?

Install Hubzilla locally with XAMPP ?
For few ideas I'm looking for a way to install Hubzilla locally on a desktop.
Before i start looking in to all this KVM options i would like to try it with XAMPP

https://www.apachefriends.org/

XAMPP is a free and open-source cross-platform web server solution stack package developed by Apache Friends,consisting mainly of the Apache HTTP Server, MariaDB database, and interpreters for scripts written in the PHP and Perl programming languages. Since most actual web server deployments use the same components as XAMPP, it makes transitioning from a local test server to a live server possible.

it was easy to install XAMPP - and XAMPP does not need much resources but somehow i can´t install Hubzilla with this system. The hubzilla setup installation script does not start and gives me just a blank page.

Has someone an idea what i could try to make it work? Thanks

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Sat, 07 Jan 2023 11:19:06 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XAMPP

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 14:41:29 +0100

Scott M. Stolz

scott@hubzilla.monster

Are you just trying to test an installation for development purposes, or are you trying to communication with the outside world?

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 15:57:22 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

@Scott M. Stolz NO communication with the outside world needed

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 16:44:07 +0100

Grouchy

grouchy@hub.grouchysysadmin.com

it was easy to install XAMPP - and XAMPP does not need much resources but somehow i can´t install Hubzilla with this system. The hubzilla setup installation script does not start and gives me just a blank page.

A blank page is normally a PHP error. Did you install XAMPP with PHP 8.2? I can't say for sure, but Hubzilla may not support v8.2 yet. Check the PHP error log for issues.

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 16:55:42 +0100

Scott M. Stolz

scott@hubzilla.monster

@RockyIII Does it work with localhost as the domain name?

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 17:03:10 +0100

Scott M. Stolz

scott@hubzilla.monster

@Grouchy

A blank page is normally a PHP error. Did you install XAMPP with PHP 8.2? I can't say for sure, but Hubzilla may not support v8.2 yet. Check the PHP error log for issues.

Speaking of PHP versions, sometimes it is not the version that gets you, but rather missing PHP modules that are needed.

For example, on my dedicated server, I can run Hubzilla on PHP 8.0 but not PHP 8.1, because PHP 8.0 has all of the needed PHP modules installed, but PHP 8.1. does not.

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 17:49:09 +0100

Max Kostikov

kostikov@zotum.net

@Grouchy

but Hubzilla may not support v8.2 yet

It supports :sunglasses:

Sun, 08 Jan 2023 05:27:00 +0100

Grouchy

grouchy@hub.grouchysysadmin.com

@Scott M. Stolz

For example, on my dedicated server, I can run Hubzilla on PHP 8.0 but not PHP 8.1, because PHP 8.0 has all of the needed PHP modules installed, but PHP 8.1. does not.

That's strange. Why not install the PHP 8.1 modules?

@Max Kostikov

It supports :sunglasses:

Awesome!

Sun, 15 Jan 2023 15:23:26 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

has someone tried Hubzilla locally with XAMPP ?

Sun, 15 Jan 2023 17:59:26 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

maybe i'm doing something wrong... what does this paragraph mean:

3. Create an empty database and note the access details (hostname, username,
password, database name). The PDO database libraries will fallback to socket
communication if the hostname is 'localhost' and some people have reported
issues with the socket implementation. Use it if your requirements mandate.
Otherwise if the database is served on the local server, use '127.0.0.1' for
the hostname.

Internally we now use the PDO library for database connections. If you
encounter a database configuration which cannot be expressed on the setup form
(for instance using MySQL with an unusual socket location); you can supply
the PDO connection string as the database hostname. For instance

:/path/to/socket.file

You should still fill in all other applicable form values as needed.

https://framagit.org/hubzilla/core/-/blob/master/install/INSTALL.txt

Sun, 15 Jan 2023 20:11:26 +0100

Mike Macgirvin

mike@macgirvin.com

Assuming you are using XAMPP as hinted in the comments, you will need to access either the mysql command line or phpmyadmin and create a database. You will have generated a database login when you installed XAMPP. You may need to look at XAMPP's settings page to retrieve them if you don't remember. Once you've created the database, you will need to put the login details into hubzilla so that it can use them.

So first, create the database.

When you install Hubzilla, use 'localhost' as the database hostname.This will attempt a "socket connection" to the database. I think this is what XAMPP wants to use, but it's been a few years and that may have changed.

Then enter the database username, password, and the name of the database you just created. Leave the port number blank or 0.

If it doesn't connect, verify the username and password and try again. If these are both correct, use the string '127.0.0.1' as the hostname instead of 'localhost'.

If it still doesn't connect, give a shout.

Sun, 15 Jan 2023 20:49:13 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

thanks @Mike Macgirvin for explaining.

I created a database by phpmyadmin.

I loaded all the HZ files into

/opt/lampp/htdocs/hubzilla

did
cd /opt/lampp/htdocs/hubzilla
mkdir -p "store/[data]/smarty3"
chmod -R 777 store

but when i go to

http://localhost/hubzilla/

or

http://127.0.0.1/hubzilla/

i just get a blank white page

a wordpress installation was easy done on the same system ... so I'm not sure why it does not work with HZ.

Sun, 15 Jan 2023 21:42:48 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

@Mike Macgirvin I was think of trying to install a HZ Installation locally as an offline Reader for backuped / exported db / json files, so no need for a fully federated server. Maybe there is a better way to do this as with XAMPP but i worked with XAMPP before and it worked fine than - it is installed easily and does not need much resources.

Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:14:23 +0100

Mike Macgirvin

mike@macgirvin.com

OK, that will probably work - but you will need to have it at the domain root. so https://localhost and not https://localhost/hubzilla . This might conflict with wordpress if you're putting both of them on the same box.

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 00:24:07 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

@Mike Macgirvin I don't care about wordpress - it was just a test so see if XAMPP is working.

ok so i copied all files from /opt/lampp/htdocs/hubzilla to /opt/lampp/htdocs/ and tried again... #^https://localhost and #^http://localhost stil just give me a blank white page :-(

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 00:49:18 +0100

Scott M. Stolz

scott@hubzilla.monster

@Grouchy

That's strange. Why not install the PHP 8.1 modules?

Because all my scripts work on PHP 8.0, and I have higher priority tasks on my to do list. I'll eventually get to it when I need too, but right now I'd rather spend my time on other more important matters.

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 00:51:39 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

@ray peaslee yes

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 16:57:34 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

may be a permissions thing

Yes seams so

after i installed all files by git in a new folder the installations HZ process did work :-)

with two error messages:

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Template::$compiler is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_template.php on line 719

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Extension_Handler::$_codeFrame is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_extension_handler.php on line 182

so it is always about the line

$this->$property_name = $value;

what does this mean?

and
The registration of a Hz account does not work right. -even if i confirm the resignation by the given code the login does not work

what could i try next?

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 17:22:38 +0100

Mario Vavti

mario@hub.somaton.com

@RockyIII

The registration of a Hz account does not work right. -even if i confirm the resignation by the given code the login does not work

That is probably due to the secure cookie setting. You do not have ssl configured guess?

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 17:24:57 +0100

Mario Vavti

mario@hub.somaton.com

@RockyIII

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Extension_Handler::$_codeFrame is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_extension_handler.php on line 182

This should not be a problem for now. It is a warning and not a fatal error. It should get fixed in smarty.

Tue, 17 Jan 2023 21:00:52 +0100

RockyIII

rocky3@im.allmendenetz.de

@Mario Vavti

You do not have ssl configured guess?

somehow i seam not to do it right... so do you think if i get https working it should work?

if i look at the db tables after i tried to register and confirmed the register code I see an entry in

"register"

but no in "account" and "channel"

this are all the error shown

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Template::$compiler is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_template.php on line 719

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Extension_Handler::$_codeFrame is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_extension_handler.php on line 182

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Extension_Handler::$getLiterals is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_extension_handler.php on line 182

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Extension_Handler::$addLiterals is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_extension_handler.php on line 182

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Extension_Handler::$setLiterals is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_extension_handler.php on line 182

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Extension_Handler::$getTemplateVars is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_extension_handler.php on line 182

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property Smarty_Internal_Extension_Handler::$_writeFile is deprecated in /opt/lampp/htdocs/hub2/vendor/smarty/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_extension_handler.php on line 182