Bug: Friendica channel relays permanently wreck Hubzilla posts at their source
Whenever a Friendica channel relay automatically shares (= repeats/boosts in Friendica's lingo) one of my posts, it gets completely mangled at the source on my Hubzilla channel, and I have to restore it manually. Somehow, Friendica channel relays seem to have or generate write access to posts on Hubzilla.
The following happens:
- The title is deleted, not to be retrieved from anywhere.
- The source code is changed from my original source code to what Hubzilla converts it into internally to parse it.
- The summary is moved to the top of the actual post with
[b]Content warning:[/b] ahead of it and followed by a [hr]. - The hashtags are both changed from
#Hashtag to #[url=/search?tag=Hashtag]Hashtag[/url] and copied into the categories in a completely chaotic order that has nothing to do with the order of the hashtags in the post. - The original category/ies is/are deleted.
- All line feeds in bullet-point lists are removed.
- A raw-URL link to the original is added to the very top with
#^ since I have Bookmarks installed. - The visibility of the post is changed from actually public to "Public order" with an open padlock symbol. This makes it impossible for myself to repeat or share the post. I can't change this back.
This keeps happening when the
Socialmedia Relay/Feed shares my posts. (The link also explains what a Friendica channel relay is.) The most recent example was
this post.
The original source code before the Socialmedia Relay/Feed has shared my post:
Two things are becoming glaringly obvious currently.
One, it seems like aspiring Facebook escapees want and expect Facebook as it was in December, 2024, in the Fediverse. Maybe also because that's what they're told Friendica is. Just like Twitter escapees have been wanting and expecting Mastodon (and the Fediverse as a whole) to be literally Twitter without Musk, but otherwise absolutely identical to Twitter. Because that's what they were told.
People don't want something that's better than the original. Because that's different from the original. People want 1:1 clones of the original.
Two, lots of Mastodon users, even many of those who have been around since the second Twitter migration wave of late 2022 (as in over two years)k, haven't understood the Fediverse yet. They think their Mastodon account can only connect to Mastodon accounts, and a Friendica account can only connect to Friendica accounts, and so they need a Friendica account in parallel to their Mastodon account in order to be able to stay in contact with both new Friendica users and current Mastodon users.
Little do they probably know that they already follow users of Friendica, Hubzilla, Misskey, Sharkey, Iceshrimp, Akkoma, Mbin etc. on their Mastodon accounts because Mastodon doesn't tell them. Even less do they know that Friendica is the federation world champion. Not only does it connect to everything in the ActivityPub-using Fediverse, including Mastodon, but it also has more non-ActivityPub connection options than anything else.
Not so obvious yet: If a significant number of Facebook users does end up on Friendica, we'll have a wonderful clash of cultures in the Fediverse.
[list][*]Faction #1: almost three years worth of Twitter refugees on Mastodon who still want to force Mastodon's culture upon the whole Fediverse. Including Friendica.
[*]Faction #2: fresh arrivals on Mastodon from Twitter who want to keep living their Twitter culture, and who don't even expect Mastodon to have its own culture.
[*]Faction #3: fresh arrivals on Friendica from Facebook who want to keep living their Facebook culture, and who also end up angering faction #1 with "long posts" (anything with over 500 characters).
[*]Faction #4: the old Fediverse guard, especially on Friendica where some users have been since years before Mastodon has even been created, who are being lectured by faction #1 and accused of harassment by factions #2 and #3.[/list]
Beware if faction #3 discovers Lemmy communities and starts joining them. For Lemmy's culture is almost identical to Reddit's culture, whether #1 wants or not.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #Mastodon #[zrl=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica]Friendica[/zrl] #MastodonCulture #FediverseCulture
The source code after the Socialmedia Relay/Feed has shared the post:
#^[url]https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/c97be2c0-4068-4936-a908-d65d15ba5be8[/url]
[b]Content warning:[/b]What Facebook escapees need, and what Mastodon users think they need; CW: long (almost 2,800 characters), Fediverse meta, Fediverse beyond Mastodon meta, Facebook mentioned, Twitter mentioned[hr]Two things are becoming glaringly obvious currently.
One, it seems like aspiring Facebook escapees want and expect Facebook as it was in December, 2024, in the Fediverse. Maybe also because that's what they're told Friendica is. Just like Twitter escapees have been wanting and expecting Mastodon (and the Fediverse as a whole) to be literally Twitter without Musk, but otherwise absolutely identical to Twitter. Because that's what they were told.
People don't want something that's better than the original. Because that's different from the original. People want 1:1 clones of the original.
Two, lots of Mastodon users, even many of those who have been around since the second Twitter migration wave of late 2022 (as in over two years)k, haven't understood the Fediverse yet. They think their Mastodon account can only connect to Mastodon accounts, and a Friendica account can only connect to Friendica accounts, and so they need a Friendica account in parallel to their Mastodon account in order to be able to stay in contact with both new Friendica users and current Mastodon users.
Little do they probably know that they already follow users of Friendica, Hubzilla, Misskey, Sharkey, Iceshrimp, Akkoma, Mbin etc. on their Mastodon accounts because Mastodon doesn't tell them. Even less do they know that Friendica is the federation world champion. Not only does it connect to everything in the ActivityPub-using Fediverse, including Mastodon, but it also has more non-ActivityPub connection options than anything else.
Not so obvious yet: If a significant number of Facebook users does end up on Friendica, we'll have a wonderful clash of cultures in the Fediverse.
[list][*]Faction #1: almost three years worth of Twitter refugees on Mastodon who still want to force Mastodon's culture upon the whole Fediverse. Including Friendica.[*]Faction #2: fresh arrivals on Mastodon from Twitter who want to keep living their Twitter culture, and who don't even expect Mastodon to have its own culture.[*]Faction #3: fresh arrivals on Friendica from Facebook who want to keep living their Facebook culture, and who also end up angering faction #1 with "long posts" (anything with over 500 characters).[*]Faction #4: the old Fediverse guard, especially on Friendica where some users have been since years before Mastodon has even been created, who are being lectured by faction #1 and accused of harassment by factions #2 and #3.[/list]Beware if faction #3 discovers Lemmy communities and starts joining them. For Lemmy's culture is almost identical to Reddit's culture, whether #1 wants or not.
#[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long]Long[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost]LongPost[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong]CWLong[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost]CWLongPost[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta]FediMeta[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta]FediverseMeta[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta]CWFediMeta[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta]CWFediverseMeta[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse]Fediverse[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Facebook]Facebook[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FacebookAlternative]FacebookAlternative[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon]Mastodon[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica]Friendica[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonCulture]MastodonCulture[/url] #[url=https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseCulture]FediverseCulture[/url]
I have to block the Socialmedia Relay/Feed and hope this will keep my posts safe for the time being. And if you want to post about the Fediverse while using appropriate hashtags (I'm apparently the only one on Hubzilla who does that), I urge you to do the same until this mess is fixed.
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