Fri, 06 Jan 2023 17:42:03 +0000

maximo wrote the following post Fri, 06 Jan 2023 17:42:03 +0000

Profile page

Hello, I am noticing that when I am visiting the channel of a user I am subscribed to there isn't a link to take me to the profile page (https:// website /profile/ username ) to see the details and fields of that profile. Is there a variable available with such link?

With regards to the profile fields, I want to remove "Hermaphrodite" from the list. Any clue of where I can do this?

Thanks again for your help!

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maximo

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 00:37:30 +0000

Sorry about that. Will post the questions there next time.

Im referring to profile-edit-gender-wrapper

@Emanuel

Grouchy

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 00:50:30 +0000

@maximo

The list is hard coded in include/selectors.php.

maximo

Sat, 07 Jan 2023 03:23:03 +0000

Thanks for the tip. Just what I needed.

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Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:43:10 +0000

Ruhrwellenreiter (Streams) wrote the following post Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:43:10 +0000

Merry X-Mas everyone...!

I'm just starting my journey back into the Hubzilla/Nomad/Zot-Realm of the fediverse and while I am (almost) totally happy about the software (Streams), I now am collecting the important forums/channels to add them into my connections.

I'm just so glad that this forum actually lives and works and I can post to it. Other's I tried seem to be dead. (zotadel?) So forgive me that I post here, because it might not be the appropriate space for this message.

But anyway, if you can help me to connect to the relevant Groups/Forums, that woud be extremely helpful!

And I'd also have a contribution: Why don't we all our platform/software to our display names? Like @Witcraft (Hubzilla) and I are doing it... that shows identification and hopefully some little awarenes in the big crowds coming into the Mastosphere... that there is a lot more than only what they see.

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Grouchy

Sun, 25 Dec 2022 18:54:05 +0000

Try these:

Streams support: https://unfediverse.com/channel/streams
Hubzilla support: https://zotadel.net/channel/support

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

Sun, 25 Dec 2022 21:20:55 +0000

@Ruhrwellenreiter (Streams)

Why don't we all our platform/software to our display names? Like @Witcraft (Hubzilla) and I are doing it... that shows identification and hopefully some little awarenes in the big crowds coming into the Mastosphere... that there is a lot more than only what they see.

Actually, I added that only to distinguish two non-linked identities (one on Hubzilla, one on streams).

However, I like the idea to see who is running on which platform. And site domain is not always easy to see or even making that clear.

Oliver

Sun, 25 Dec 2022 22:43:02 +0000

The idea is that it shouldn't matter which platform you use.

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

Sun, 25 Dec 2022 23:18:59 +0000

@Oliver

The idea is that it shouldn't matter which platform you use.

The idea is good. But after having tried to send privacy-restricted photos to a Mastodon contact, I would actually prefer to know about the reality (where it does matter) :slight_smile:

Also, I like the idea of reminding people that there is the idea that it should not matter, and users commenting might be from different platforms.

Scott M. Stolz

Sun, 25 Dec 2022 23:28:51 +0000

@Witcraft (Hubzilla)

However, I like the idea to see who is running on which platform. And site domain is not always easy to see or even making that clear.

In my themes, I was thinking of adding a favicon of the instance the person is posting from with their post. In most cases, it would be the logo of the platform they are using, unless the admin changed it. (If they did change it, we respect that.)

Crow

Mon, 26 Dec 2022 03:25:15 +0000

@Oliver If only that were true!

Mastodon feels like using a screwdriver as a pry bar.

Hubzilla feels like using a brick.

Oliver

Mon, 26 Dec 2022 09:01:14 +0000

@Witcraft (Hubzilla) @Scott M. Stolz I'm not sure if it's still there, but I think Friendica shows the platform with a small icon.

@Crow I have no idea what you mean.

Ruhrwellenreiter TV

Mon, 26 Dec 2022 09:13:20 +0000

Hmmm ja, I had a proprietary :kubuntu: icon behind in my display name... did work well on my instance, but has not been federated. So that's something to consider, I believe. Plus the subject of screen-readers - in which I am no expert - but I've been told that some struggle seriously with graphics/icons/emojis (and missing or wrong alt-text information).

Crow

Mon, 26 Dec 2022 23:24:51 +0000

@Oliver Mastodon= not purpose built for what is needed, but it does work.

Hubzilla=ill fitted to the job at hand. Perhaps capable of doing what's needed with a lot of messing about and hammering.

That's what I meant.

Oliver

Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:14:10 +0000

@Crow For me, Mastodon doesn't work at all, the entire user interface is disastrous, I feel flooded with rubbish and the privacy settings are miserable.
I get along wonderfully with Hubzilla (and Streams), and no, I am neither a Linuxhead nor do I write exclusively about Hubzilla. What you see are my technical questions to the community, I run my own server (because the installation is really easy in contrast to Mastodon) but have no idea about such things and need help from time to time which I get thanks to the great people here.
What you might not see are the many posts about music, sports, art and society. I don't write everything publicly. That's how a lot of Hubzillians do it. Maybe many hubs are not public, Hubzilla is ideal as a family server, or for example for clubs. Hubzilla can be run on the grid or off the grid, we don't know how many people use the software, any comparisons with any Mastodon servers are completely wrong.
Hubzilla is probably much more widespread than we all think.
That's just how different we are in our expectations.

Emanuel

Tue, 27 Dec 2022 09:38:38 +0000

I never write about linux neither, just sayin'

Crow

Tue, 27 Dec 2022 14:38:19 +0000

@Oliver My original plan for commonworlds was for HZ to replace my old Drupal install that served as a repository for the tabletop RPG I run.

But I got totally bogged down in trying to get the site working like I wanted, while also trying to understand the purpose and point of HQ/streams/channels in hubzilla.

Notably though, I've seen zero interest in my gamer buddies to experiment with the site. I think it's just too hard for someone who isn't used to figuring out tech and doesn't have unlimited time.

I'm now finding some other, mostly Streams sites that look interesting, but I have to note that without someone else giving me a handholding tutorial on how to find them, I never would have.

Oliver

Tue, 27 Dec 2022 14:57:29 +0000

@Crow

Notably though, I've seen zero interest in my gamer buddies to experiment with the site. I think it's just too hard for someone who isn't used to figuring out tech and doesn't have unlimited time.

I completely agree with you on this point. I had plans to create a runners community with Hubzilla a few years ago, but it didn't work out, no one understood (or wanted to understand) it.

The funny thing is that I am now connected to a lot of Fediverse Runners through Streams.

Streams is a real underdog, for many (historical) reasons.
You only really find out about its existence when people like you and me write about it. Mike has no interest (anymore) in promoting his software, he even goes so far as to say that "streams" is just a "project name". I like that, more important is that the software is easy to install and does what it is supposed to do.
I have both a Hubzilla and a Streams server, for various reasons.

Crow

Tue, 27 Dec 2022 15:02:46 +0000

@Oliver Having gotten a tutorial on how to ignore the local "view friend suggestions" and look at streams directories, I'm also finding people... but the odd thing is that virtually ALL of them have a streams splash page with a "visit" link that just takes me to their Mastodon account.

I'm guessing that Streams content is typically hidden/private.

Oliver

Tue, 27 Dec 2022 15:17:39 +0000

@Crow

I'm also finding people... but the odd thing is that virtually ALL of them have a streams splash page with a "visit" link that just takes me to their Mastodon account.

if you are led to a Mastodon page, then Mastodon and not Streams is behind it

My Streams content, for example, is about 80% public.
However, access to /directory is mostly not open, as I have just discovered.

Oliver

Tue, 27 Dec 2022 15:32:26 +0000

After trying a bit to find hubzilla-people by interest in /directory, I now understand what you mean. Yes, it is not that easy.
However, I never use it that way. My connections usually come about because I discover interesting people in comments.
My suggestion to all: fill the profile-keywords sensibly, they work very well in the search.

Scott M. Stolz

Thu, 29 Dec 2022 00:44:23 +0000

I think we need to have an entire paradigm shift related to decentralized social media. What we need to do is marry the community aspect of forums and discussion groups with the reach of social media. We already have done this on a technology level with Hubzilla, which allows forums and discussion groups in addition to personal social accounts, but I think we need to do more to change how people think and interact with decentralized social media.

For example, instead of focusing on promoting individual accounts (i.e. a directory), we focus on introducing people to communities. These communities typically have a specific topic or interest associated with them. Once people join a community or lurk around a bit, they begin to discover individual people whom they may want to connect with or follow.

This will help people find interesting people, and would also weed out a lot of spammy accounts because they either do not participate in communities, or if they do, the moderators remove their posts (in most cases). And even if they don't, people will see them for what they are.

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Tue, 20 Dec 2022 17:12:53 +0000

maximo wrote the following post Tue, 20 Dec 2022 17:12:53 +0000

Figuring out derived theme

Hello, I am setting up a new hub for plant lovers. Trying to figure out how to add a derived theme. I followed the instructions https://hubzilla.org/help/en/DerivedTheme1 and I created one, but when selecting it, even with no content it breaks the appearance.
here's how it looks: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkjdhskkai3eknz/theme.png?dl=0
Any clue as to what I could have missed?

Thanks for the help!

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Scott M. Stolz

Wed, 21 Dec 2022 05:38:46 +0000

I updated the theme to include additional instructions on how to modify it. I also added an omitted step in the editing process. (I forgot to mention that you have to edit style.php as well.)

https://github.com/WisTex/Neuhub/tree/main/view/theme/redbasic-child

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

Wed, 21 Dec 2022 06:37:47 +0000

@Scott M. Stolz

I updated the theme to include additional instructions on how to modify it. I also added an omitted step in the editing process. (I forgot to mention that you have to edit style.php as well.)

The guide would have done miracles when I started out with the new Hubzilla webpage - Thanks for contributing it! This will make the Hubzilla webpage app much more useable.

To my opinion, understanding the code (by someone who can...) and translating it into such templates and guides are key for making Hubzilla better useable. I am afraid a lot of people who can read code think that others can do that, too, because it's so easy (hint: It is not). So thanks for taking the time and spelling out how to do it - This might be a key success factor for such a complex platform as Hubzilla.

Scott M. Stolz

Wed, 21 Dec 2022 15:06:33 +0000 last edited: Wed, 21 Dec 2022 15:08:34 +0000

@maximo @Witcraft (Hubzilla) You're welcome. My pleasure.

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Sat, 26 Nov 2022 15:59:07 +0000

Crow wrote the following post Sat, 26 Nov 2022 15:59:07 +0000

Novice Hubzilla Admin headaches

I've just spun up Common Worlds and I don't know if I have issues, or it just takes a while for federation to kick in.

But let's start with: my directory server URL has only two options, and no way to change it to anything else because it's a dropdown menu with no text entry. Both of these directory servers are in a country far away. Why are only these two options available and how might I change it, if that's even a good idea? My understanding of federation suggests that there should be hundreds of directory servers. Right? And searching the web for any info about directory servers came up with nothing, so IF I CAN change it, what would be better?

Secondly, I'm 100% certain I installed the ActivityPub app, but I can't seem to connect to my own Mastodon account or really, anything else using target@server.etc. Though part of that "anything else" may be related to being unable to find good channels in the fediverse, which is what brought me to the question about the directory servers in the first place. When I go to commonworlds/apps, the ActivityPub app does not show up. How can I make the ActivityPub app reappear in the apps section so I can make sure it's turned on?

And finally, does federation take a while to finish? The site has been fully functional now for 50+ hours and attempts to connect with anything that's not in the directory all fail to find anything.

Many thanks in advance.

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Crow

Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:30:10 +0000

Thank you!

Scott M. Stolz

Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:31:20 +0000 last edited: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:31:49 +0000

Congratulations on your new site.

It does take time. As mentioned by @Oliver, it is best to ask on the @Hubzilla Support Forum instead. You are more likely to get a comprehensive answer there for this type of question.

Crow

Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:52:52 +0000

@Scott M. Stolz thanks, yeah, I reposted the same questions to the support forum.

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Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:21:53 +0000

techriot wrote the following post Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:21:49 +0000

Although The 'server-setup.sh', Script Attempts To Install PHP 8.1.12 It Fails.

When installing Streams, the script does a very good job automating the task. However, where the script fails occurs at line 288. After the installation, the first thing I did was php -v and the response was PHP 7.4.30 (cli) (built: Jul 7 2022 15:51:43) ( NTS )
Then I ran apt update and I received the message:

GPG error: https://packages.sury.org/php bullseye InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B188E2B695BD4743

The repository 'https://packages.sury.org/php bullseye InRelease' is not signed.
Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. So that's where the script failed.

However the steps I took to overcome it all was
* sudo apt install -y lsb-release ca-certificates apt-transport-https software-properties-common gnupg2
* echo "deb https://packages.sury.org/php/ $(lsb_release -sc) main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sury-php.list
* wget -qO - https://packages.sury.org/php/apt.gpg | sudo apt-key add -
* apt get update
* sudo apt install php8.1

Pretty much what was in the script and that worked. From there I disabled the module php7.4 enabled module php8.1 and increased the upload limit in /etc/php/8.1/apache2/php.ini from 2M to 8M and moved on. I couldn't fix the script since I am sleep deprived but I'll try again later.

I made a copy of the /var/log/apache2/error.log and a list of all the packages installed, after the installation script ended

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Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:57:37 +0000

dracosnovem wrote the following post Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:57:37 +0000

I Had Two Failed Installation Attempts, Trying To Install Streams.

I was disappointed today because I tried and failed twice to work with Streams. I cloned the repository, read the instructions in .easyinstall whipped out a new image of Debian 11, a clean install and the instructions were pretty standard, by which I mean similar to the installation process to Hubzilla and Zap. Everything went smoothly, including the automated installation of LetsEncrypt certificates and in my cases, both Apache 2, configuration files and similarly, the same for Nginx. I tried the installation process twice, on two similarly clean installation environments. I checked and rechecked the configuration files in sites-enabled and they checked out, everything was in place but when I fired up all my browsers, I either got an error for 500, or I got blank pages all with working SSL certs too. I'm discussing it here because I'd like to know if anyone has had any similar experiences and if so, how were you able to overcome the obstacles. Perhaps, there is nothing wrong and at the moment, this is just the state of where Streams is currently. I've only really just heard about Streams and after working with both it and Hubzilla, I'm really excited to take her for a test drive.

I'm not to sad though really, I still have my Hubzilla and Zap servers to pass the time and my only regret is, that it took me this long to start getting hands on experience working with them. Thanks for your time and I hope that one or more of you will read this and have suggestions, tips and insights, on the ready. Thank you.

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Grouchy

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:19:59 +0000

A blank page or 500 error should create an entry in the web server or PHP log. Can you post those log entries? That would help narrow down what is going on.

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:48:24 +0000

grouchy@hub.grouchysysadmin.com I'll do another install in an hour or so, and then I'll keep it around so that we can do some forensics. I'll post the logs once it's all done. Thanks.

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 05:59:27 +0000 last edited: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 06:28:39 +0000

I had similar problems with roughly 5...10 installation attempts on a shared webhosting, after having set up successfully several Hubzilla, Misty, and Zap installations in the same environment. Sometimes, I could not even call the install script (which might have been a DNS / SSL delay problem, sometimes it worked a bit later). But whenever I completed install, I got a blank page for calling/ register or the main address.

I did not get it running, although I got the new composer part in the process working. There is a long thread in the Hubzilla support forum because I was not aware of support channel @Streams .

I tested a dedicated (streams) instance as a test with a friend at K&T host (They are spcialized on hosting a respectably wide range of FOSS privacy, Fediverse, Forum & Matrix Synapse personal instances at really fair conditions. Support has been prime). I explicitly asked them not to Install the instance for me (this service would have been the default, including auto-update and auto-backups) but let me SSH-install the service myself with their (public) customized install and setup manuals. It worked like a charm. And did not look much different except for a few environment-security based deviations.

So Hubzilla & Zap work fine for me on shared webhosting, (streams) dI did not succeed to get running there even with help, but works fine in another environment. So there must be a combination of new elements on the install process and some webserver/php configuration.

Scott M. Stolz

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 07:04:24 +0000 last edited: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 07:05:40 +0000

I haven't installed Streams yet, but I had a similar problem on Hubzilla. Blank screen during the install. It turned out that Hubzilla did not like PHP 8.1 and I had to switch to PHP 8.0 to make it work. I forgot I had set the server to default to PHP 8.1 for new cPanel accounts.

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 07:06:30 +0000

witcraft@hubzilla.fediversum.de I think you're right. I'm noticing that the logs are complaining about php errors and such, and I did install it on one of those shared hosting sites .

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 07:07:41 +0000

Yes that may be it I'm running php 7.4 and perhaps that's the problem. I'm going to install php 8.0 now and see if anything changes.

Oliver

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 11:26:40 +0000

My streams and Hubzilla are running smoothly with PHP 8.1
You definitely need a PHP version 8 or later.
install.txt

Einer von Vielen

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 11:41:57 +0000

I pushed a merge request. The easyinstall now checks for the minimal php version (8.0 at time of writing). @mike (mike@unfediverse.com)

Scott M. Stolz

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 12:24:21 +0000 last edited: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 12:24:43 +0000

@Oliver

My streams and Hubzilla are running smoothly with PHP 8.1

I wonder why it bombed on my server then. I changed the version from 8.1 to 8.0 and it fixed it immediately, so I know the version was the issue in my case. It is possible that I did not have the required PHP extensions installed for 8.1 but had the required PHP extensions for 8.0. I'll have to check into that.

Einer von Vielen

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 14:22:13 +0000

@dracosnovem (agentcasey@zap.natehiggers.online) Did you comment out something in the install script? I used it about two weeks ago to install Streams on a small computer at home. Everything was fine. It is the one I am logged in right now.

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 14:56:08 +0000

I remember now that blank screen in setup was tge 8.1 issue, too. It worked with 8.0. However, there still was the issue with blank screen after setup (unsolved).

Grouchy

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 15:51:21 +0000

It works with PHP 8.1 on my system too.

I suspect those having issues with PHP 8.1 have a mismatch between the web and cli version of PHP with different php.ini/extension.ini settings.

Einer von Vielen

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 16:05:15 +0000

I closed the merge request. Seems to be rather useless because the script does install installs the latest version of PHP.

Einer von Vielen

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 16:14:04 +0000

This info might be interesting too: Two weeks ago the setup.php failed (the pages just after the installation). This bug was fixed with https://codeberg.org/streams/streams/commit/a3097710a240c7865362eccf1b202af55a21d069 and had nothing to do with the PHP version.

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 17:04:09 +0000

einer@lau.digitalesparadies.de It's working now. The problem was, the Php version I was using, wasn't up to date. I installed it on a Debian 11 system, that was using Php 7.4. I upgraded to Php 8.1 and everything works great now. I just gave up too easily. I did another install, but this time, I decided to read the logs and try to investigate the problem. I've been sleep deprived lately, so my decision making, may be a little impaired. Thanks everyone. Streams is now alive and well and running on my machine. I now have Hubzilla running, Streams running and Zap too. I really love all three.

Oliver

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 17:27:53 +0000

@dracosnovem You don't need Zap anymore

Witcraft (Hubzilla)

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 17:50:04 +0000

@dracosnovem Zap will be EndOfService (no security updates...) by end of this year.

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 20:21:26 +0000

What he just said.

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 20:36:08 +0000

einer@lau.digitalesparadies.de no, I didn't omit any comments. It was all an error stemming from the improper php version, one which was easily remedied, by an upgrade. Since then she has been purring along happily. I've also seen your post, stating that, you have done some revisions to the easyinstall script. perhaps it's better to leave it the way it is, that way, there will be no interruptions in the installation process. Then after the installation is completed, then, the installer will have to install the upgrade packages and then, everything will run fine. I do have one suggestion, however, it must be noted, that on Debian systems, after the upgrade from php-7.4 to php-8+, apt will somewhat, insist on prompting the user for apt autoremove, which should not be done as auto removing the packages that were upgraded, will brake dependencies withing the Debian ecosystem. So, I suggest, when prompted, to just issue the command apt install "$all the packages slated for auto removal" and dependencies are kept, we have our upgraded packages and our system is stable for it.

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Fri, 21 Oct 2022 01:04:55 +0000

Scott M. Stolz wrote the following post Fri, 21 Oct 2022 01:04:55 +0000

Example Widget with Instructions

I just created an Example Widget with instructions on how to use it in the comments.

Unlike most widgets and modules, this uses the "object method" which allows you to echo directly and even copy and paste raw HTML code into the widget. Useful if you are reusing existing code and don't want to rewrite it.

https://github.com/WisTex/Neuhub/blob/main/widget/Examplewidget/Examplewidget.php

Feel free to use it and adapt it. Let me know what you think. And I am open to feedback and pull requests.

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Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 05:36:20 +0000

@mike Nice. Thank you. I will make the adjustments.

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 06:05:35 +0000

@mike I'm getting a 500 error when I make that change when the widget is used in Hubzilla Version 7.8.4.

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 06:19:29 +0000

@mike I thought so, which is why I tested it.

Would the current way be compatible with both Hubzilla and Streams? My goal is to make widgets that work on both platforms without having to create two versions.

And you mentioned installing from a repository. I would like to make that possible, I am just not sure how to do that.

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 06:53:17 +0000

Okay, thanks for the heads up.

And I was actually hoping to install more than widgets via git. I was hoping to install the entire Neuhub suite via git.

In the meantime, I noted the differences between Streams and Hubzilla by making comments in the example.
https://github.com/WisTex/Neuhub/blob/main/widget/Examplewidget/Examplewidget.php

I'll try the WidgetInterface.php piece next.

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 07:28:32 +0000

I added WidgetInterface.php as you specified, but when I use class Examplewidget implements WidgetInterface I still get a 500 error.

https://github.com/WisTex/Neuhub/blob/main/Zotlabs/Widget/WidgetInterface.php

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 10:35:11 +0000

The WidgetInterface.php file already has:

public function widget(array $arguments): string;

In the widget itself, as a test, I checked the type. It outputs that it is a string.

$output = ob_get_clean();
echo gettype($output);

// and the object ends and is returned by the function.
// return ob_get_clean();
return $output;

No other functions are called in the widget.

So it appears that the variable being returned is in fact a string.

// works in Hubzilla
class Examplewidget {

// 500 Error in Hubzilla
class Examplewidget implements WidgetInterface {

https://github.com/WisTex/Neuhub/blob/main/widget/Examplewidget/Examplewidget.php
https://github.com/WisTex/Neuhub/blob/main/Zotlabs/Widget/WidgetInterface.php

What am I missing?

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 21:30:13 +0000 last edited: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 21:37:22 +0000

Changing it to return (string) ob_get_clean(); didn't work either. And neither did changing it to return ob_get_clean() ?? '';.

$output = ob_get_clean();
echo gettype($output);

And gettype says it is a string.

And the IDE wasn't helpful in this matter, since it said that ob_get_clean(); is a string.

Image/photo

Of course, PHP strongly disagrees:

[11-Nov-2022 15:35:40 America/Chicago] PHP Fatal error: Declaration of Zotlabs\Widget\Examplewidget::widget($arr) must be compatible with Zotlabs\Widget\WidgetInterface::widget(array $arguments): string in /home/redacted/public_html/widget/Examplewidget/Examplewidget.php on line 43

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:35:41 +0000 last edited: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:39:21 +0000

@mike

I neglected to mention this in the initial instructions - so your widget will require two changed lines, first the class declaration and then the function declaration

This was the problem. If I change line 43 from

function widget($arr) {

to

function widget($arr): string {

it works.

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:40:16 +0000

@mike

public function widget(array $arguments): string {

Including the public part?

Scott M. Stolz

Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:41:59 +0000

It appears happy now. Thank you for your assistance.

Scott M. Stolz

Sat, 12 Nov 2022 07:41:44 +0000 last edited: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 07:50:21 +0000

@mike

You can do what you want. An interface is a contract. Nothing more. This is how the code is supposed to behave. By implementing the contract, one is agreeing to its terms. I fail to see the point of why somebody would agree to the contract and then default on it at the very first opportunity. If this was my employer and I provided a pull request without 'public' for this particular interface, I'd be told to do it over.

@mike You have to remember that my skillsets are primarily technical writing and business planning and I am not actually a developer, nor do I intend to become one. I am simply writing all of this stuff because no one else will. So if I do not understand the concepts, that is why. If I ask stupid questions, that is why.

You keep telling people, if you want something done on this project, do it yourself. Make it happen. Well, I am not even a developer, yet I am still trying to contribute. I am willing to learn. I am willing to create "proof of concept" websites that show that my ideas are worth pursuing. Hopefully those working "proof of concept" websites will inspire real developers™ to write better versions of my elaborate mockups.

Because my code will be held together with bubble gum and sticky tape. Lots of sticky tape! They will be copy and pasted code that I modified but barely understand. But they are meant to be mockups and proofs of concept, and not the final product. I will implement everything the proper way as much as I can, but I need someone to actually tell me how that is done, in most cases.

If fact, that is why I ask stupid questions. I am a novice, and I want to implement it right.

So, yeah, I might be a shitty developer who would get fired before I even make my first commit to a project. But I am NOT a developer. I am just someone who is stepping up to the plate, trying to contribute, when no one else will.

And, before someone brings it up, once I can afford to hire a developer, that is one of the first things I will do.

You guys are sitting on a bleeping gold mine. You have the power to actually change how the internet operates with this technology. Yet, if someone makes suggestions on how to make it better, they are told to write it themselves.

I can totally understand that. You and Mario and others have contributed so much. It really is unfair to ask you all to contribute more.

I am sorry that I am not a developer. I am passionate about this project, and I have skillsets that this project can benefit from. Writing code is not one of them. But if I have to write code because project developers don't believe my ideas are worth pursuing or don't have the time, that leaves me no choice but to create proofs of concept that shows WHY my ideas need to be implemented.

My actual hope is that other developers look at my ideas, see that it is a good concept, and then implement it in the core properly. And if that doesn't happen, then when my startup makes enough money where I can hire developers, I will hire developers to create my concepts.

So, please be patient with me. As I keep repeating, I am not a developer, but I am someone who believes in this technology, and thinks it can make the world a better place if properly implemented. I am doing what I can, as novice as that may be, because there is a gap, and no one else is stepping up to fill that gap.

I'm just doing what I can with the little resources that I do have.

Scott M. Stolz

Sat, 12 Nov 2022 14:08:19 +0000

@mike

You're doing fine and a lot of people appreciate your contributions.

Writing widgets for streams has changed from the way it has traditionally been done in Hubzilla and requires a couple of changes and a little more attention to data types. Sorry if it didn't work the first time - that was mostly my fault. Now you know how to do it.

Thank you for saying that.

And I should have been clearer that when I was asking about whether "public was necessary." I was asking because I don't understand what "public" means and since other examples did not have "public" I was wondering why yours did. I was not challenging your authority. I will do it however you tell me to do it. I was just trying to understand and learn.

The biggest thing is that, since I am a not developer, you can't assume that I understand developer concepts. Most of what you initially said flew right over my head, and after a lot of research, then I figured out "oh, that is what he meant." Then I felt stupid for a moment, learned, and went on.

If something needs to be changed, you just have to be specific, preferably giving sample code; and if you are feeling particularly generous, explain why it has to work that way so I understand it and can explain it to others.

I know it is not your job to teach me how to develop. But, if I am going to document this project and explain it to system administrators, hub operators, and end users, I will need to know how to do some things. And you and Mario are the only people who know certain things. Part of the reason why my projects are taking so long is that I have to research information that you and Mario already know like the back of your hand, because I don't want to always be bothering you with stupid questions.

Instead of thinking of me as a wanna-be developer, think of me as a technical writer who needs to explain this to non-developers. That is more in line with my actual expertise. This project desperately needs documentation. I am willing to create it, so be patient with me, and understand I am not at the same level as you guys. So don't expect that.

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Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:33:31 +0000

Grouchy wrote the following post Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:33:20 +0000

Hello,

Is there a way to contribute to Hubzilla financially? I don't seen Hubzilla on Open Collection, Librepay, or Patreon. Even the Bountysource linked to from Hubzilla.org is inactive. ( https://salt.bountysource.com/teams/hubzilla/not_activated)

I do see @Mario Vavti has the ability to make one time payments on his hub, but what about other contributors? Is there an official place to donate to that I'm missing?

Haakon Meland Eriksen (Parlementum)

Thu, 04 Aug 2022 10:07:21 +0000

Ask via PM to the developers how best to do so, and contribute what you want.

Grouchy

Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:34:20 +0000

@Haakon Meland Eriksen (Parlementum)

Thank you.

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Thu, 12 May 2022 11:01:07 +0000

Scott M. Stolz wrote the following post Thu, 12 May 2022 11:01:07 +0000

I've started on the endeavor of creating a new theme for Hubzilla called Neuhub. When finished, I will release it under the MIT license. It is still a work in progress, but I would love your feedback and suggestions.

The mockup is here: https://completehostingguide.com/channel/mockup

The live discussion forum is here: https://completehostingguide.com/channel/customhubzilla

Please let me know what you think, and how to make it better. Thank you.

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☕kaffee-ecke☕ wrote the following post Sat, 01 Jan 2022 02:19:38 +0000

Emanuel

Tue, 04 Jan 2022 02:44:35 +0000

@☕kaffee-ecke☕ du solltest deinen Bildern die entsprechenden Zugangsrechte geben. So sind sie nicht sichtbar.

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